. >> that's part of the problem in the environment that we're in. as we saw in the middle east and libya, everyone views the truth through their own prism and doesn't accept reality if it disagrees where they are. i don't think the moderator is going to do that. i think both sides are going to accuse the other side of not sharing the facts. they're both going to do that. at some point, they have to be called on it. they have to tell the truth to the american public. >> who makes that decision is the voters. i think voters are going to start penalizing people who don't cooperate. to throw in a little partisan barb, republicans wouldn't pass the president's jobs bill. this isn't about obama's record. this is about what's going on in washington. people are sick of it. the question is, who do you trust more to end that? and i think the odds are now with obama because people see obama as having tried at least to work the other side. i think we'll get to a better place. i think it's going to be after the election. when the voters start penalizing people f